There were a lot of releases this year, some under the radar, a lot of projects with different artists, was that intentional?
It was just naturally how it happens. I always work the same amount every year, I never stop working. Some-times it just happens that it falls all together like this and it seems like I’m doing more!
Especially when ‘Pounce’ [featuring Flohio] came out, I looked back on everything. There was the Lil Peep stuff, a few production credits… Did the right artists come around in 2018?
Yeah for sure, maybe stuff fell into place for who knows what reason? Maybe the right artist… For example the Peep stuff, that came out about a year after we did it, we did it in April or May 2017 and it didn’t come out until May 2018. So that’s what I do, I work and work and then stuff comes out whenever, especially in that situation…
Would you have liked that track [‘4 GOLD CHAINS’] to have come out sooner?
Yeah, I tried. He was so busy at the time… It was just about to come out, the video was already done, he shot it out in London, but it was just a crazy time for him. Then, you know… When his team reached out to me I was so happy, because I didn’t think it was ever going to come out after he passed away. Especially because of the song, it’s a very important song for his fans. They wanted something like that, so it’s very special.
The lyrics are obviously incredibly poignant.
Yeah, and then after everything… It’s a whole other level.
That must have been a trip…
When I listened to it before it was heavy, but then after the fact, it became a whole other thing.
It often happens, especially in hip hop, that an artist’s meaning increases when they pass away, but with him it wasn’t just the music it was a message he was spreading with a certain demographic.
People are always going to look at things differently when someone passes away. You start thinking about what they’re saying in a whole new way, you listen to something and hear something you never realised before.
In terms of other collaborations, the Flohio link up being one of the most recent, it seemed like a perfect time and a perfect combination of MC and producer. She opened up for me in London two years ago! I did a show at XOYO during my album tour and her and AJ Tracey opened up for me and we’ve been in touch but not really working since. Just on each other’s radar. When the time was right it was right.