How does it feel for you (a man from Wexford) to be living in London where women have bodily autonomy, but the place you come from doesn’t? Does it make you feel Ireland is in the dark ages?
On this specific topic, yes, but not in general. I’m just really happy that this issue is being brought to light now and I believe people will come out and do the right thing.
I don’t ever want to heavily impose my view on others, but I believe we need to step away from the conversation of abortion and talk about women having the choice of what to do with their bodies. It’s not about whether you agree with abortion or not, it’s about giving women the choice of what to do with their body.
This is more a conversation of equality in my mind.
So even if someone doesn’t agree with abortion themselves they should still be able to allow others the freedom to do what they want with their bodies?
Yeah, I think so. Everyone should have the right to their own freedom. If someone doesn’t believe what another person believes, it doesn’t mean that they then can’t believe that thing. It all comes down to having the choice.
Fuck yeah man. What are your thoughts on 50 per cent of the vote being down to men, I even feel weird about that sometimes?
I’d like to think it will show that men aren’t living in the dark ages mentality and that there is progression in our thinking. That it will highlight a new era of Irish men. Also, I think it’s good when people from different backgrounds and sexes talk about other people’s issues. That shows empathy, care, compassion. It’s not just one group of people in the world. If we care about women’s rights, freedoms and struggles we are moving in the right direction.
People seem to forget about context. There is this billboard along the canal near Rathmines where it’s like, 10 weeks (image of developing embryo), 11 weeks (embryo further along), 12 weeks (gone! blank space)… I’d love to write in that blank space, ‘cause she was only 14’. The context of the situation is key.
Agreed. Yeah man, I’ve seen those posters. It’s easy to highlight and tell a story for your own agenda, to go for that shock reaction. But the whole thing about this is the backstory. They aren’t showing women and their backstories.
Also, let’s just point out, no one is willingly going out there wanting to get an abortion.
Yeah, it’s like there is this perception from the anti-abortion lot that women are just going out loving having abortions. The truth is, ask any woman who has had an abortion and who has gone through that process, it definitely won’t be a highlight in their lives.
It’s a very emotional period.
We live on an island here and the mindset can be very one dimensional. You’re a man who has travelled the world and seen a lot, always trying to push your horizons. How important do you think it is to travel, to have a look at what’s going on outside of here?
I think it’s really important. I think again it comes back to being able to understand other people’s struggles. And just different cultures and histories around the world. The beauty in all of this though, when you delve down, the real beautiful stuff is in the similarities we all have.